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CM 3 No 3009 Used in Aden WWI

Further thoughts on this censor, after reviewing the two copies of 'The Dhow' which Neil sent me I can extend AKs' recorded dates to ERD 11/04/17, LRD 20/01/18.


This raises the question was 3009 used anywhere else prior to use in Aden.

CM 3 was issued in April 1915 for use on the Western Front, Replaced there Jan 16 but used later in Egypt, Salonika and a couple of other areas.


3009 falls in a block recorded used in Egypt, 3008 is recorded April 16 onwards, nothing currently recorded for 3010 to 3012 and 3013 in Egypt by September 16. The latter part of 3000 + continues with Egypt use mainly.

As Aden lies at the southern end of the Red Sea it's likely 3009 was supplied by GOC Egypt I believe. Does anyone have examples or records of CM 3, 3010 to 3012.


CM 3 is probably the censor…


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Neil Williams
2 days ago

Chris, having said I'd never had eyes on an example, I found the attached in a dealer's stock today.! I don't collect this period, but I borrowed the cover! Front and back scans attached, Base Office Aden backstamp 10 DEC 17. Neil


Neil W

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Early Air Mail 1918 - 22

Lastly


A J's record card showing what he recorded for early Airmail with the RAF Squadron details etc.


Reverse of card is blank.


Chris



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Post WWI Datestamp change over dates

Finally,


A card showing what A K recorded for the changeover dates in June 1916 and for myself more interest the return dates in February 1919 when units regained their original pre June 1916 datestamps.


Literature suggests that the 1919 return was 1st February, the right hand side column looks like dates in February where units received their original cancels, these run between the 1st and 25th.


This will have a knock on effect for the study of the use of CM 6 censor stamps in February 1919 if these dates are correct. Currently I've found nothing further connected with this material.

Reverse of card is blank.


Chris


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Sicily in WWI

A second scanned card which may be of interest


A K's records for Sicily, shows reference to early Newsletters and IWM records


Chris


Reverse of card


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Aden in WWI

Currently working my way through some of A K's record cards which deserve wider sharing than what they have received so far.


I show the card covering the information collected for Aden.


My interest is the reference to CM 3 / 3009, the first mention I'd seen for this one, Checking FD he recorded it as shown.


Two questions has anyone a copy proving its use, also who was J R Croft who A K mentions ?


In time I will scan all these cards they fit nicely front and reverse on a page in Word so creating a permanent record easy to share or distribute online. I currently have two boxes of these cards and understand there is one more held within the society.


Chris


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grimman60
3 days ago

Thanks Neil.


Must hold my hands up, I of course edited that edition but had forgotten the details and the item slipped my mind. Many thanks for the lead and the two PDF's you've sent me.

Appreciated. That's another one off the list and useage confirmed.


Chris

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War Office M.O.2, 1940

I have a cover with a red circular cachet with the words "GENERAL STAFF M.O.2 WAR OFFICE" and an OFFICIAL PAID / LIVERPOOL cancel dated 4 M(?) 40.

Can anyone inform me what department or directorate M.O.2 was?

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Michael Dobbs
Michael Dobbs
6 days ago

Jim

The initials MO reflect the Directorate of Military Operations and MO2 would appear to be connected with intelligence - MO2 & MO3: Foreign intelligence and regional analysis. It appears that MO2 was the sub-directorate handling Middle East, Africa, and non-European strategic operations.


I understand that the Directorate of Military Operations and the Directorate of Military Intelligence worked as a combined department during the war.


More information could well be found in the The National Archives WO106 class of files - War Office: Directorate of Military Operations and Military Intelligence, and predecessors: Correspondence and Papers.


Michael



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A K Reference Cards

Sorting through these cards on some there is a note (IWM 323) or a different number.


I know A K obtained information from many sources. What comes to mind on this note is, Imperial War Museum and the number represents a file or folio. I have visited the Imperial War Museum but never the Documents section, from memory I think you used to have to pre-book.


Anyone any thoughts on what the note means if different from what I'm thinking?


Chris


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grimman60
6 days ago

Hello Geoff


Many thanks for your response. I'd had a look at the IWM website but didn't get very far I'm afraid. I'd agree that the references are for private collections or correspondence that was donated over the years. Currently I have seen 3 or 4 different reference numbers but it's likely there are others as I work through the cards.


I'll try emailing them, I'm unlikely to visit the IWM again unforunatley as not travelling much now for health reasons.


Cheers Chris

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Ex History of NZ Military Postal Services 1845 - 1991 by Startup & Proud.


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Thanks very much Jim.


Mike

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CM 6 Censor In WWI

Continuing my quest on these censors I've recently made a start on the A Kennedy Reference Cards I have access to.


Unfortunately the cards covering the 'S' series of offices show no censor data. These will be useful clarifying some of the locations I feel.


However other cards are more forthcoming, there are a small series covering the (FPO) A 1 to A 5 offices where he shows recorded material.


Does anyone have any material from these series of offices please. I feel that what A K has listed can be extended.


Cheers Chris

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