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I came across this lot - Nothing like I collect but I thought it may be of interest. The bids are rapidly increasing so I assumed it is unusal
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/278283244187?_trksid=p2471758.m4704
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Team
Lets awaken the WWII Brigade,
As the title says this addresses use of WWI Censor marks in WWII, CM 3
The cover shows use of CM 3 / 4521, FD recorded use of CM 3 up to 4542, but with incomplete records in this range, I record above 4500 used in Salonika, (still records to check.) Currently no record of 4521 in WWI.
This raises the question, was it part of a block sent out to Salonika or retained in London, An earlier post showed GRO records, where instructions were given for the censor handstamp number was to be destroyed in theatre. (CM 4) So was that aplicable for CM 3, If sent out looks like the stamps were sent back to London and stored. In that case others may exist for WWII.
Who said the Censorship question was easy !
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As the title says, A picture is worth a 1000 words, forget who penned that origionally.
I show a recent 'harvest' from the web,
Yes, cut outs only, But until I find complete covers with clear strikes they show,
1 A Censor No was used,
2 Which FPO or APO was using it.
Two boxes ticked, yes I cannot see where it was going or who censored it but it's a start, certainly when we come to CM 5 & CM 6 where very little records exist. Interesting to se the wide range of censors from one office FPO 6, but of course a FPO at Brigade level such as this is served 4 Battalions, plus other smaller units, Once we progress into the security swaps the tally grows.
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Morning Team
CM 3 is recorded used in Malta for Civil Censorship, two groups were allocated.
This post looks at the group, 4160 to 4182 The publication 'Malta at War' I've referred to in earlier posts give dates for all the range,
However as always I'm building a lasting record file of confirmed evidence.
I'm looking for scans of the following, 4160 - 61 - 63 - 64 - 68 - 71 - 79 - 80 - 81. I have clear records of the others in the series. Can anyone help?
Cheers Chris
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Afternoon Team
CM 6 Censors
Having spent three days constructing a spreadsheet I can trust, (Yes, I don't like spreadsheets unless I can verify them)
Seriously my records will match the scans and verified reports .
Currently think I may have found the first 'chink' in distribution of CM 6, Does anyone have any material in the range 5000 to 5100. ?
Details sought if anyone can help.
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A few queries regarding this Mombasa picture postcard sent forces' concessionary mail and marked HMS Bulwark.
Cancelled Maritime Mail, it must have been posted mid July or later as the GB postboy stamp was not issued until 7 July 1960.
Google tells me Bulwark left UK in early 1960 and was involved in a number of operations throughout the year including in East Africa.
I acquired this card some time ago among a small collection of East Africa military mail but have only now got round to mounting.
The previous owner identified it as originating from 42 Commando in 1960 which is possible as this battalion was allocated to Bulwark at this time. They also placed the carrier at Mombasa in early August 1960 although google suggests Singapore. Are they right? Was the year 1960? Was the location Kenya? Was the sender indeed a commando or was he a Bulwark…
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A few queries regarding this rather dull Nairobi picture postcard sent forces' concessionary mail.
Firstly, the indistict FPO. I have consulted Proud and can't find an appropriate number starting with 2. What number?
Secondly, google tells me 848 Squadron was shore-based in Singapore on 25 August 1960. Was Bulwark also in Singapore? I know it was involved in quite a few operations after leaving UK.
Finally, the Nairobi postcard. Did the airman buy the card in Kenya while on leave or operations and then take it to the Far East before use rather than posting it in East Africa?
Any help appreciated.
Michael
Hi, Michael, well, quite a few questions there:
- The writer identifies himself as a naval airman with 848 Squadron, FAA, so he’s clearly NOT with 42 Commando.
- Ray Sturtivant, in his book The Squadrons of the Fleet Air Arm (an excellent tome, which lists, among other things, the bases of all the FAA squadrons) puts 848 Squadron on board HMS Bulwark between the 15th July and 15th September 1960. His listing for 848 Squadron shows that when not aboard Bulwark during her Far East commission, it was based at Sembawang, Singapore. The obvious conclusion is that HMS Bulwark visited Kenya (presumably Mombasa) during the summer of 1960, with 848 Squadron on board. (Google is not always correct (!)) Hopefully that explains the Kenya connection.
- Having established that connection, then the FPO becomes much clearer: 256, which Proud locates in Nairobi from April 1953 to September 1961.
- The only question remaining is how/why this item was posted in Nairobi, when the sender was (nominally) in – of off – Mombasa, 300 miles away. Too many possibilities, so there’s no point in speculating.
I hope that helps?
chrs
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Afternoon Team
AS part of my quest, if somethings printed or reported reference this study, eventually I'll find it...
One such is shown which hopefully will generate some interest and hopefully even comments and reports of further material. Or any RNAS related material with these censors or others?
Part of a major article as shown:
Does anyone have material from any of these offices? or material with these Censor numbers? Articles and reports such as this enable me to prove that these numbers were issued and used, also give am indication where used. Without a trip to Hendon difficult to prove such reports of course, but carry very strong weight, even without an illustration.
Chris
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Morning Team
Today's first post is based on an article from Newsletter No 173, Autumn 1982.
Easier than saying look it up, I reproduce the two pages as published back then. As shown reproduced from the 'War Cover Bulletin' date unknown, My interest was caught by the Adenda at the foot of page two where mention is made of CM 5 & CM 6 used on US mail. Possibly the article may have further information or lead to something further. With the numbers involved in CM 5 & CM 6 (13,000 approx) any lead needs to be tracked down. Chris
John,
You have certainly come across 'a little gem'. Like you this is not my area of collecting but I certainly can see why it's well sought after. It'll probably end up being sole for over £200.
Cheers
Mick Carter